[Feature Request] CoCCA or FRED Registry App

Started by thetrusteeco, May 21, 2013, 10:44:57 PM

Should HostBill have a CoCCA or FRED Registry App

Yes, both
Yes, either
Yes, a CoCCA Registry App
Yes, a FRED Registry App
No, neither
I don't care

thetrusteeco

This is an idea I bounced off Kris (via Justyna) a year ago.  They didn't think enough HostBill users would be interested.  They're probably right, but it would have simplified a project I'm working on (had to go with WHMCS + 3rd Party module).

I might have posted this in the old forums too; don't remember.  If it's a re-run for some of you, don't get too mad, just vote.  I am curious about everyone's opinion, but I do expect that "no" option to be the leader, followed by "don't care".

What's a CoCCA or FRED Registry App?
CoCCA and FRED are TLD Registry platforms.  CoCCA is used by dozens of ccTLDs around the world, and FRED is used by a few.  Both are free to use.  Both are well maintained by CoCCA Registry Services (NZ) Limited and CZ.NIC, and support IPv6, EPP/Auth Codes, DNSSEC, and other features you'd expect of major registry software.

A CoCCA or FRED Registry App would be a domain registration app that registers domains on your server running CoCCA or FRED.  For this to be useful you have to be managing your own TLD.

That's where most of you will get off my short bus, but ...

There are 1000s of nTLDs making there way to the market, and most will not be open to the public, but limited to companies and communities.  So for example if the owner of .ford want's to have a limited registry where Ford dealerships can sign-up, this won't be going through Directi or one of those guys.  It will be like .museum, the dealership will have to sign-up directly with Ford.

Question: What's the easiest way for Ford to do this?
Answer: A billing system with an integrated registry.

Now I expect Ford will go to Windows or VeriSign/Symantec, and then increase prices on their autos, but what about the other guys?  There are a lot of nTLD applications for communities or non-profits that have trademarks.

Also there is the suddenly waking up ccTLDs in Africa and other developing regions.  Some are going all-open like Somalia, Mali, etc. But some do want to keep their TLD limited to locals.  If they're not offering reselling an integrated Billing/Registry system what they need. 

Even if they are offering reselling, the reseller app/module (HostBill/WHMCS/whatever) can still interface with the CoCCA/FRED registry directly without the registry's HostBill site or the app I'm proposing being involved in the transaction.  That would require a reseller-app being made as well.

I've seen some registries using WHMCS with CoCCA, in-fact even the official CoCCA Registry decided to go this way a few months ago.  But did they have an option?  Not that I could find.

So, should Kris (or a 3rd Party) make an app for this?
You can change your vote on this if you change your mind.
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Charles Proteus Steinmetz

Patrick

Don't be afraid of reposting feature suggestions that were previously posted.  That's what this category is for, to hopefully have hostbill come by and read it here since they have absolutely no where else to read suggestions.
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tallship

Boy that oen came out of left field didn't it?

Most people aren't even aware those systems even exist. I wish they would have been around back when I was operating TLD registries.

Anyway, I voted YES on the CoCCA, Haven't played w/FRED.

That having been said, and without going back to look, I don't think that's legally possible, due to incompatibilities with the GPL.
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thetrusteeco

Quote from: tallship on May 22, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
Boy that one came out of left field didn't it?

Yeah, that was the feeling KBKP gave too.  It seems strange to me that no one else would have asked for this.  I know many ccTLDs from smaller developing economies just don't know what they're going to do.  And then the nTLDS...

Quote from: tallship on May 22, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
That having been said, and without going back to look, I don't think that's legally possible, due to incompatibilities with the GPL.

Interesting... I didn't think that would be a problem.  In case our wires are crossed, I should clarify:
For this to be useful you have to be managing your own TLD via a server running the CoCCA or FRED registry.
I simply meant the app to interface between the HostBill Server and the CoCCA or FRED Server, not for CoCCA or FRED to be integrated into HostBill.

As the CoCCA Registry is doing the same thing with a 3rd Party WHMCS module on their site, I doubt they'd have a problem with it.  But definitely something that would need to be checked.
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tallship

Quote from: thetrusteeco on May 22, 2013, 04:55:59 PMI simply meant the app to interface between the HostBill Server and the CoCCA or FRED Server, not for CoCCA or FRED to be integrated into HostBill.

Oh, my der again, lol. Yes of course. It would certainly be a good thing to implement too.
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softbill

I am desperately looking for someone who can integrate Cocca as HostBill Domain Management Module. Please forward me the cost if you can do this.